Old Earth vs Young Earth in the Bible
Does the Bible allow a free exploration of the natural evidence?

NOTE: Here we examine specific Bible passages used to advocate young earth creationism. See our article on Catholics and Creationism for a more general discussion.

Here we will propose that the Bible can be read faithfully through an old earth lens or a young earth lens. An old earth perspective is nothing like relativistic attempts to reconcile the Bible with LGBT politics, nor does it compromise Jesus' miracles, which are spectacular specifically because God established the laws of physics.

Summary

Animal death and carnivores before Adam's fall is biblical

  • The "prince of this world" (Jn 14:30) fell after earth's creation (Rev 12:7)
  • Satan fell before Adam's sin (Jn 12:31, 2 Cor 4:4, Eph 2:2), and posed as a serpent among the "wild animals" before the fall (Gn 3:1).
  • Satan's fall may have caused a previously perfect world to grow thistles, carnivores, etc. Satan's sins of rebelling against God, and deceiving Eve predates Adam and Eve's fall.
  • Eden was created perfect for Adam and Eve, in the midst of this fallen world where satan was "prince".
  • Eden was likely preserved from bad things and carnivorous animals, evidenced by their banishment out of Eden after Adam's fall.
  • Adam's fall caused death and concupiscence to humanity. (Rm 5:12)

The creation account follows the laws of physics.

  • On Day One God created the universe (Gn 1:1), the planets, stars, etc. The earth was covered with clouds and dark atmosphere (Job 38). On Day 4 God cleared the sky over the earth to "let there be light". This is consistent with cosmology.
  • There are 4 meanings of YOM (days), one of which is a long period of time.
  • If dinosaurs lived with humans, the Bible would be full of them.
  • Claims that the rare mention of Behemoth, Leviathan, and dragons in the Bible don't map well to dinosaurs.

DETAILS:
Doesn't an old earth require death before Adam?

Advocates for young earth creationism say before the fall so there could be no death or suffering for animals because God said "it is good". They say death entered the world as a result of Adam’s sin (1 Cor 15:21-22, Rm 5:12-19), yet the fossil record shows the death of animals before man's fall.

But Adam and Eve's sin was not the first sin.

Satan rebelled and fell before Adam's fall

In Job 38:4-7 God asks Job,

"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth...when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

The phrase "sons of God" (bene Elohim) is typically interpreted as Angels. The exact phrase also appears in Job 1:6 and Job 2:1, where it clearly refers to heavenly beings presenting themselves before God.

  • The angels rejoiced when God laid the foundations of the world (Job 38:4-8) which corresponds to "It was good" (Gn 1)
  • Lucifer was a near perfect angel (Ez 28:14-16) but was proud (Is 14:13-14) and fell to earth (Is 14:12, Lk 10:18)
  • Lucifer convinced 1/3 of the angels to follow him in rebelling against God (Rev 12:4) and they were exiled to earth (Jude 6)
  • Evil was in the world before God made Adam and Eve because the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gn 2:9) was there. If Adam ate of it he would die (Gn 2:16), so death was in the world, perhaps eternal life was only for humans.
  • Satan fell after earth's creation (Rev 12:7) and before Adam (Jn 12:31, 2 Cor 4:4, Eph 2:2), was among the "wild animals" before the fall (Gn 3:1).
  • God created a garden for Adam and Eve (Gn 2:8)

The Garden was probably more heavenly than the rest of the world because Adam and Eve were banished out it. When Satan and his minions fell, they could affect the whole world except the Garden of Eden.

"It was very good" applied to what He "made" not "created"

There are three common words for God's actions in Genesis 1.

  • Created - bara' ) בָּרָ֣א: To bring into existence, something from nothing.
  • Made - asah עָשָׂה: To prepare, to fashion, to dress as with existing materials
  • Formed - yatsar יָצַר: To Frame, to potter

God differentiates the words created from made, evidenced by Genesis 2:3:

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

CREATED from nothing:

  • Gn1:1 In the beginning, God "created" the heaven and the earth.
  • Gn1:21 And God created great whales, and every other living creature...
  • Gn1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him.

Note: The phrase "heavens and earth" is how the Bible says "the material universe". The phrase emphasizes earth's unique role in the universe.

MADE from existing matter:

  • Gn1:7 And God made the firmament, ...
  • Gn1:16 And God made two great lights... and he made the stars also
  • Gn1:25 And God made the beasts of the earth after his kind...
  • Gn1:31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

An example of this:

Genesis 8:6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made.
MWY 'asah (aw-saw')

FORMED: Fashioned from existing matter

  • 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, ...
  • 2:19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air...

Satan's sin caused death to animals not Adam's sin

Satan and his angels were already sinning in the garden before Adam's sin. He deceived Eve. Advocates for young earth creationism say that there was no death before Day 7 because God said all he "created" was good. But that is not what the text says. On day 6 God said:

Genesis 1:31 : And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

The Angels were created from nothing, not made from exisiting materials. Everything he "made" was good, not everything he "created".

There is no conflict in the Bible with animal death before Adam.

We know the devil fell to earth after it was made. The fall was likely Day 1 after God created the "heavens and earth" because Genesis 1:2 describes a chaotic earth, even after he made it.

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form (tohuw) and void (bohuw); and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

  • tohuw (to'-hoo) In a state of confusion
  • bohuw (bo'-hoo): Emptiness, void, waste

It might have happened later but Satan was active and sinning in the Garden before the fall because he deceived Eve before they sinned. Also, the garden of Eden was not like the rest of the prince of this world's (Jn 14:30m 2 cor 4:4) world, because they were banished from the Garden after the sin into his world.

Some advocates for young earth creationism point to Romans 5:12 to prove Adam's sin is what brought the choas into the natural world, but the Greek for world in this passage is:

kosmos: Mankind, the human family.
not
oikoumene: The inhabited earth, the globe. (i.e.,Rm 10:18 "into" all the world")

The passage clearly says "all men", not all of nature and the physical world.

Wherefore, as by one man, sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. Romans 5:12

God made light on day 1 when he made the heavens

On day 4 God blew away the clouds over the earth and let the light shine. Genesis 1:3

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

hayah (haw-yaw): To be instituted or established, To be situated.

Plants need sun to live. The sun was not created after the plants. God made the sun on day 4. Job shows us that the world was covered and dark:

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare if thow hast understanding. When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling band for it. Job 38:1-9

So on day 4, he likely cleared the "cloud the garment". We see all 3 forms of the word in Isaiah 45:18

For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens,  (he is God!),
who formed the earth and made it
 (he established it; he did not create it a chaos, he formed it to be inhabited!):
I am the Lord, and there is no other. IS 45:18

Show other possible explanations
  1. Old Earth astrophysicist, Hugh Ross explains that all of creation is on a pilgrimage towards perfection which will be at the second coming. At the beginning, God's design includes the death of plants and animals. This may be consistent with Biblical hermeneutics which shows this pilgrimage in weird things like how "God hardened Pharaoh's heart", even though it caused the death of all of Egypt's first born, and the death of many plants and animals via the plagues. By the time we get to the end of the Bible there will be no death.
  2. Human death entered as a result of sin. Perhaps animal death seems unavoidable since carnivores are designed to only eat meat, evidenced by their incisors.
  3. Or, natural death (even human death) isn't a punishment at all, but only spiritual death. Death could have existed before Adam was alive due to the tree of life in the garden.
  4. There may be other explanations.

Biblical Evidence for "Yom" not being a literal 24 hours

Day 6 has to be more than 24 hours

In Genesis 2, there's a significant passage of time between God creating Adam and creating Eve and yet Genesis 1 says both are made on the sixth day. It can't be a 24 hour day. Look at all that happens.

  • God creates Adam outside the Garden of Eden.
  • Adam has a chance to watch the trees growing in Eden.
  • God puts him in Eden
  • God says I want you to attend the garden, work the agriculture.
  • He has to name all the soulish animals
  • He had to figure out how God designed each one to serve and please him
  • God says that none of these animals was fit for him and that he was alone (lonely)
  • Adam must have had enough interaction with these animals to realize that they couldn't fulfill him
  • Then God puts him to sleep he performs an operation on him
  • He gets to see Eve
  • The Hebrew word recorded in Genesis 2, a word that you see over 20 times elsewhere in the Old Testament, is translated "at long last".

This can't be a 24-hour period. It was those two points at age 17 that convinced me that these days were long time periods not just 24 hours.

Strong's entry for Yom - Day

The context in which "yom" is used often determines its specific meaning. For example, in Genesis 1, "yom" is used to describe the six days of creation, which some interpret as literal 24-hour days, while others see them as symbolic of longer periods.

Show 3 Creation stories in the Bible in addition to the two in Genesis

Proverbs 8

The Lord created me at the beginning[b] of his work,[c]
    the first of his acts of long ago.
23 Ages ago I was set up,
    at the first, before the beginning of the earth.
24 When there were no depths I was brought forth,
    when there were no springs abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains had been shaped,
    before the hills, I was brought forth—
26 when he had not yet made earth and fields,[d]
    or the world’s first bits of soil.
27 When he established the heavens, I was there,
    when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28 when he made firm the skies above,
    when he established the fountains of the deep,
29 when he assigned to the sea its limit,
    so that the waters might not transgress his command,
when he marked out the foundations of the earth,
30     then I was beside him, like a master worker;[e]
and I was daily his[f] delight,
    rejoicing before him always,
31 rejoicing in his inhabited world
    and delighting in the human race.

32 ‘And now, my children, listen to me:
    happy are those who keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction and be wise,
    and do not neglect it.
34 Happy is the one who listens to me,
    watching daily at my gates,
    waiting beside my doors.
35 For whoever finds me finds life
    and obtains favour from the Lord;
36 but those who miss me injure themselves;
    all who hate me love death.’

 

Job 38-39

Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind:

2 ‘Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up your loins like a man,
    I will question you, and you shall declare to me.

4 ‘Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
    Tell me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
    Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 On what were its bases sunk,
    or who laid its cornerstone
7 when the morning stars sang together
    and all the heavenly beings[a] shouted for joy?

8 ‘Or who shut in the sea with doors
    when it burst out from the womb?—
9 when I made the clouds its garment,
    and thick darkness its swaddling band,
10 and prescribed bounds for it,
    and set bars and doors,
11 and said, “Thus far shall you come, and no farther,
    and here shall your proud waves be stopped”?

12 ‘Have you commanded the morning since your days began,
    and caused the dawn to know its place,
13 so that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth,
    and the wicked be shaken out of it?
14 It is changed like clay under the seal,
    and it is dyed[b] like a garment.
15 Light is withheld from the wicked,
    and their uplifted arm is broken.

16 ‘Have you entered into the springs of the sea,
    or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
    or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?
    Declare, if you know all this.

19 ‘Where is the way to the dwelling of light,
    and where is the place of darkness,
20 that you may take it to its territory
    and that you may discern the paths to its home?
21 Surely you know, for you were born then,
    and the number of your days is great!

22 ‘Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
    or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I have reserved for the time of trouble,
    for the day of battle and war?
24 What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,
    or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?

25 ‘Who has cut a channel for the torrents of rain,
    and a way for the thunderbolt,
26 to bring rain on a land where no one lives,
    on the desert, which is empty of human life,
27 to satisfy the waste and desolate land,
    and to make the ground put forth grass?

28 ‘Has the rain a father,
    or who has begotten the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb did the ice come forth,
    and who has given birth to the hoar-frost of heaven?
30 The waters become hard like stone,
    and the face of the deep is frozen.

31 ‘Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades,
    or loose the cords of Orion?
32 Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season,
    or can you guide the Bear with its children?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
    Can you establish their rule on the earth?

34 ‘Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
    so that a flood of waters may cover you?
35 Can you send forth lightnings, so that they may go
    and say to you, “Here we are”?
36 Who has put wisdom in the inward parts,[c]
    or given understanding to the mind?[d]
37 Who has the wisdom to number the clouds?
    Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,
38 when the dust runs into a mass
    and the clods cling together?

39 ‘Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
    or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
40 when they crouch in their dens,
    or lie in wait in their covert?
41 Who provides for the raven its prey,
    when its young ones cry to God,
    and wander about for lack of food?

39 ‘Do you know when the mountain goats give birth?
    Do you observe the calving of the deer?
2 Can you number the months that they fulfil,
    and do you know the time when they give birth,
3 when they crouch to give birth to their offspring,
    and are delivered of their young?
4 Their young ones become strong, they grow up in the open;
    they go forth, and do not return to them.

5 ‘Who has let the wild ass go free?
    Who has loosed the bonds of the swift ass,
6 to which I have given the steppe for its home,
    the salt land for its dwelling-place?
7 It scorns the tumult of the city;
    it does not hear the shouts of the driver.
8 It ranges the mountains as its pasture,
    and it searches after every green thing.

9 ‘Is the wild ox willing to serve you?
    Will it spend the night at your crib?
10 Can you tie it in the furrow with ropes,
    or will it harrow the valleys after you?
11 Will you depend on it because its strength is great,
    and will you hand over your labour to it?
12 Do you have faith in it that it will return,
    and bring your grain to your threshing-floor?[a]

13 ‘The ostrich’s wings flap wildly,
    though its pinions lack plumage.[b]
14 For it leaves its eggs to the earth,
    and lets them be warmed on the ground,
15 forgetting that a foot may crush them,
    and that a wild animal may trample them.
16 It deals cruelly with its young, as if they were not its own;
    though its labour should be in vain, yet it has no fear;
17 because God has made it forget wisdom,
    and given it no share in understanding.
18 When it spreads its plumes aloft,[c]
    it laughs at the horse and its rider.

19 ‘Do you give the horse its might?
    Do you clothe its neck with mane?
20 Do you make it leap like the locust?
    Its majestic snorting is terrible.
21 It paws[d] violently, exults mightily;
    it goes out to meet the weapons.
22 It laughs at fear, and is not dismayed;
    it does not turn back from the sword.
23 Upon it rattle the quiver,
    the flashing spear, and the javelin.
24 With fierceness and rage it swallows the ground;
    it cannot stand still at the sound of the trumpet.
25 When the trumpet sounds, it says “Aha!”
    From a distance it smells the battle,
    the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.

26 ‘Is it by your wisdom that the hawk soars,
    and spreads its wings towards the south?
27 Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up
    and makes its nest on high?
28 It lives on the rock and makes its home
    in the fastness of the rocky crag.
29 From there it spies the prey;
    its eyes see it from far away.
30 Its young ones suck up blood;
    and where the slain are, there it is.’

 

Psalm 104

God the Creator and Provider

1 Bless the Lord, O my soul.
    O Lord my God, you are very great.
You are clothed with honour and majesty,
2     wrapped in light as with a garment.
You stretch out the heavens like a tent,
3     you set the beams of your[a] chambers on the waters,
you make the clouds your[b] chariot,
    you ride on the wings of the wind,
4 you make the winds your[c] messengers,
    fire and flame your[d] ministers.

5 You set the earth on its foundations,
    so that it shall never be shaken.
6 You cover it with the deep as with a garment;
    the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At your rebuke they flee;
    at the sound of your thunder they take to flight.
8 They rose up to the mountains, ran down to the valleys
    to the place that you appointed for them.
9 You set a boundary that they may not pass,
    so that they might not again cover the earth.

10 You make springs gush forth in the valleys;
    they flow between the hills,
11 giving drink to every wild animal;
    the wild asses quench their thirst.
12 By the streams[e] the birds of the air have their habitation;
    they sing among the branches.
13 From your lofty abode you water the mountains;
    the earth is satisfied with the fruit of your work.

14 You cause the grass to grow for the cattle,
    and plants for people to use,[f]
to bring forth food from the earth,
15     and wine to gladden the human heart,
oil to make the face shine,
    and bread to strengthen the human heart.
16 The trees of the Lord are watered abundantly,
    the cedars of Lebanon that he planted.
17 In them the birds build their nests;
    the stork has its home in the fir trees.
18 The high mountains are for the wild goats;
    the rocks are a refuge for the coneys.
19 You have made the moon to mark the seasons;
    the sun knows its time for setting.
20 You make darkness, and it is night,
    when all the animals of the forest come creeping out.
21 The young lions roar for their prey,
    seeking their food from God.
22 When the sun rises, they withdraw
    and lie down in their dens.
23 People go out to their work
    and to their labour until the evening.

24 O Lord, how manifold are your works!
    In wisdom you have made them all;
    the earth is full of your creatures.
25 Yonder is the sea, great and wide,
    creeping things innumerable are there,
    living things both small and great.
26 There go the ships,
    and Leviathan that you formed to sport in it.

27 These all look to you
    to give them their food in due season;
28 when you give to them, they gather it up;
    when you open your hand, they are filled with good things.
29 When you hide your face, they are dismayed;
    when you take away their breath, they die
    and return to their dust.
30 When you send forth your spirit,[g] they are created;
    and you renew the face of the ground.

31 May the glory of the Lord endure for ever;
    may the Lord rejoice in his works—
32 who looks on the earth and it trembles,
    who touches the mountains and they smoke.
33 I will sing to the Lord as long as I live;
    I will sing praise to my God while I have being.
34 May my meditation be pleasing to him,
    for I rejoice in the Lord.
35 Let sinners be consumed from the earth,
    and let the wicked be no more.
Bless the Lord, O my soul.
Praise the Lord!

What about dinosaurs in Job 40:15-24?

We've moved this to a separate article.

Was Jesus a Young Earth Creationist ?

Some advocates of young earth creationism say Jesus was a young earth creationist when he said:

“But from the beginning of cr
ation God made them male and female.” Mark 10:6

If Jesus was talking about the beginning of the universe, then humans would have to be created on Day 1. Humans were created on Day 6. Matthew 19:4-6 is the parallel to Mark 10:6. It says "In the beginning" without "of creation". This is also true for the phrase "....from the foundation of the world" in Lk 11:50–51 and Rm 1:20.

If advocates for young earth creationism want to take the Bible literally, without nuance or consideration of genre, then they must be consistent. In reality, the term "from the foundation of the world" is used many times in various contexts, where it is not asserting an historical or geological reality. (i.e., Eph 1:3-6, Jn 17:24, 1 Pt 1:20, Mt 25:34, Rev 13:8, 17:8, Mat 13:35, Heb 4:3)

We don't think Jesus was trying to teach about the age of the earth in those passages, ware about moral and behavioural things like divorce.

Conclusion

The Bible works perfectly well to describe an old earth and the laws of astrophysics:

  • The Bible makes a distinction between what god created from nothing (the heavens and the earth and man's soul) and what he made from existing materials "light"
  • The universe was made perfect (Gn 1:1) but Satan's fall messed the earth up (probably in Gn1:2). The "prince of this world" is what caused nature to fall, and death to animals before Adam
  • On day 6, God said what he "made" was very Good, not what he "created". He created the fallen Angels, he didn't make them, so death to animals before Adam is biblical.
  • On day one God created the universe, the planets, stars, etc. But the earth was covered (Jb 38)
  • On Day 4 God blew away the cloud cover to "let there be light". This is consistent with cosmology.

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